From death to divorce: getting through the worst losses of your lifeFrom death to divorce: getting through the worst losses of your life
All In The Mind
At some point in our lives, we all face the question, "how will I ever get through this?". You know the moments — a sudden loss, a messy break up, an unexpected diagnosis or a career halted… These questions are close to Lucy Hone's heart, not just because of her work as a resilience researcher, but also because of her own experiences of life-altering grief. So today, Dr Lucy Hone shares her tips for navigating the world when it feels like everything is falling apart. Guest: Dr Lucy Hone Resilience researcher Adjunct Senior Fellow, University of Canterbury in New Zealand Co-director of the New Zealand Institute of Wellbeing and Resilience Author, How Will I Ever Get Through This and Resilient Grieving Credits: Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar Senior producer: James Bullen Producer: Rose Kerr Sound engineer: Roi Huberman More information: The three secrets of resilient people, Dr Lucy Hone and TEDxChristchurch You can catch up on more episodes of the All in the Mind podcast with journalist and presenter Sana Qadar, exploring the psychology of topics like stress, memory, communication and relationships on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.
31:48•27 Jun 2026
From Death to Divorce: Lucy Hone on Surviving Your Worst Losses
Episode Overview
- Grief is not limited to death; "living losses" such as divorce, job loss, illness or estrangement can be just as emotionally significant.
- Resilience is about adapting and changing, not "bouncing back" or simply toughening up and getting over it.
- Creating routines and "islands of certainty" with people, places and practices can calm the stress response after major loss.
- Asking, "Is what I’m doing right now helping or harming me in my quest to get through this?" can guide choices during grief.
- There is no useful hierarchy of grief; if an experience makes someone deeply miserable, their pain deserves empathy rather than comparison.
“"I hate that phrase bounce back because you don’t feel bouncy and you don’t go back."”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This conversation from All In The Mind zooms in on something many in recovery quietly carry: grief that doesn’t always get recognised. Whether it’s a death, a divorce, a move, or the loss of old drinking buddies and routines, you’ll hear how those “invisible” losses can hurt just as much as the obvious ones.
Resilience researcher Dr Lucy Hone talks with host Sana Kadar about how her academic work collided with real life. She first learned that “you can grieve for things other than the death of a person” after the Christchurch earthquakes, then faced every parent’s nightmare when her 12‑year‑old daughter Abby died in a car crash.
The episode walks through the big questions people ask in the darkest moments: “How will I ever get through this?”, “How did this happen to me?”, “How am I supposed to accept this?” Lucy shares very practical tools, like mapping out past losses to spot how you’ve coped before, building “islands of certainty” with routines and supportive people, and asking, “Is what I’m doing right now helping or harming me in my quest to get through this?” She also challenges the idea of a hierarchy of grief, from death to “living losses” such as fertility struggles, separation, job loss or illness.
Lucy explains, with calm honesty, why “I hate that phrase bounce back because you don’t feel bouncy and you don’t go back,” and why resilience is less about toughening up and more about adapting and staying connected. Her message is simple and kind: if it hurts, it matters.
For anyone rebuilding life without alcohol, relationships, or old identities, this gentle, science‑based chat offers company, perspective, and a reminder that “it is possible to live and grieve.” What question about your own losses do you need to ask next?

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