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Mocktails Or Messy
Kelly and Ryan sip mocktails, chat Super Bowl gossip and Valentine’s Day stories, and talk through Jay Shetty’s 8 Rules of Love. The conversation blends breakup healing, self-worth and alcohol-free living with humour and candid honesty.
25:33•14 Feb 2024
Mocktails, Breakups and the 8 Rules of Love with Kelly & Ryan
Episode Overview
- Other people’s opinions don’t have to matter; what they think is "none of your business."
- Alcohol-free options like de-alcoholised wine can keep social rituals alive without drinking.
- Seeing yourself as a complete person rather than seeking a "better half" can change how you view relationships.
- Allowing each partner’s purpose to come first supports healthier, more balanced love.
- Giving yourself time and space after a breakup, including no-contact and self-encouraging notes, can support emotional healing.
“"Whatever yins think of us, it's none of our business."”
What remarkable journeys have people faced head-on against addiction? This chat between Kelly Mizgorski and Ryan Frankowski leans into alcohol-free living with humour, honesty and a glass of de‑alcoholised Cabernet in hand.
The pair kick things off by laughing about an Instagram comment calling them "pea brains", turning criticism into a running joke and a reminder that, as they put it, "Whatever yins think of us, it's none of our business." You’ll hear them contrast their mocktails with traditional wine, showing how they still enjoy rituals around drinking without the booze.
From there, the conversation swerves into Super Bowl talk, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, and Usher’s sweaty halftime performance, mixing pop culture with playful banter that keeps things light even when the themes get heavier. Valentine’s Day threads through the episode, from Ryan’s sweet card from his grandma to Kelly’s long-term marriage, giving two very different perspectives on love.
A big focus is Jay Shetty’s book *The 8 Rules of Love*, especially ideas around being a "whole self" instead of looking for a "better half", and letting each person’s purpose come first. Ryan, fresh from a breakup, shares how these ideas hit hard, while Kelly reflects on building a secure relationship with clear boundaries, alone time, and a structured social life.
Along the way, they chat about healing after heartbreak, going no-contact with exes, and simple practices like writing encouraging notes on the mirror. It’s chatty, a bit messy, and very real—perfect if you’re figuring out life, love and sobriety with a smile and a mocktail. Ready to rethink love and recovery while having a laugh at the same time?
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