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Bob Gardner discusses the concept of cunningness and its impact on authentic living. He encourages listeners to find joy in actions themselves, not just outcomes.
9:56•20 Mar 2026
The Cunning Trap: Finding Genuine Freedom
Episode Overview
- Cunningness involves doing things for ulterior motives rather than the experience itself.
- Authentic living requires shedding cunningness and embracing genuine actions.
- Understanding orthodox mysticism can offer insights into a life of freedom.
- Motivations behind our actions often reflect cunningness rather than genuine intent.
- Finding joy in simple actions leads to a more fulfilling life.
“"When you are cunning, you're missing the thing."”
Ever wondered what it takes to live a life free from the shackles of addiction and suffering? This episode of 'Alive and Free' takes a fascinating look at the concept of cunningness and its role in our everyday lives. Bob Gardner, the host, breaks down how cunningness is not just about cleverness but rather about doing things for ulterior motives, rather than for the sheer experience itself.
Drawing from his personal experiences and insights gained from coaching others, Bob explores how cunningness can prevent us from living genuinely fulfilling lives. The episode features references to intriguing works by Kyriakos Markides, discussing orthodox mysticism and the idea of living in communion with a higher power. Bob shares his encounter with Father Maximos, an inspiring figure who embodies true holiness, contrasting it with the cunning nature often seen in daily life.
Listeners are invited to question their own motivations: Are you brushing your teeth because you love it or because you fear cavities? This episode encourages you to find joy in the act itself, rather than the reward or avoidance of punishment. With light-hearted humour and thought-provoking anecdotes, Bob challenges us to strip away cunningness and embrace a more authentic existence. If you're seeking a fresh perspective on freedom and happiness, this episode offers bite-sized wisdom to ponder.
What would life be like if we acted without cunning? It's time to find out.

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