Our addiction to the self, with Dr. Mark EpsteinOur addiction to the self, with Dr. Mark Epstein
Flourishing After Addiction with Carl Erik Fisher
Dr. Mark Epstein and Carl Erik Fisher discuss Buddhism's take on addiction, therapy's kindness placebo effect, and meditation's role in recovery.
57:02•17 Mar 2022
Buddhism, Addiction, and the Self: A Conversation with Dr. Mark Epstein
“From the Buddhist point of view, we're all addicted.”
Ever wondered how Buddhism can shed light on addiction and recovery? In this episode of 'Flourishing After Addiction', Carl Erik Fisher sits down with Dr. Mark Epstein, a Buddhist psychiatrist and author, to explore this intriguing intersection. Dr. Epstein doesn't fit the mold of someone with a 'classic' addiction, but he offers a unique perspective: from a Buddhist standpoint, we're all addicted in some way.
Whether it's to our thoughts or our sense of self, these forms of attachment can be just as consuming as substance abuse. Dr. Epstein shares his personal journey of dealing with anxieties and insecurities, leading him to psychiatric training at Harvard and nearly five decades of meditation practice. He delves into his latest book, 'The Zen of Therapy: Uncovering a Hidden Kindness in Life', offering insights into how kindness can act as a powerful placebo in therapy.
One fascinating aspect of the conversation is Dr. Epstein's belief that therapists should reveal their own humanity to help patients feel more comfortable and understood. Carl and Dr. Epstein also discuss the fusion of psychology and spirituality in addiction recovery, emphasizing the role of meditation as a tool for overcoming addiction. The episode is packed with thoughtful reflections and practical advice, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the deeper aspects of recovery.
Tune in for an engaging and enlightening conversation that blurs the lines between the psychological and the spiritual, offering new pathways to healing and self-discovery.

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