Science Plus Kindness Equals ChangeScience Plus Kindness Equals Change
SMART Recovery® Podcast
Carrie Wilkins is the Co-founder and Partner of the , a group practice of dedicated clinicians and researchers who rely on science and kindness to help people change. She is the co-author of the award-winning book and companion workbook Beyond...
41:58•17 Mar 2025
Science and Kindness: A Path to Change with Carrie Wilkins
Episode Overview
- Combining science and kindness is crucial in addiction treatment.
- Multiple pathways to recovery should be available to suit individual needs.
- Understanding and empathy are key in supporting loved ones with addiction.
- Ethical considerations include offering a range of treatment options.
- Creating a supportive environment can facilitate positive change.
“People need different ways to get better. Everybody develops a substance use issue through different pathways and everyone gets better in a variety of ways.”
In this episode of the SMART Recovery® Podcast, host Luke Fraser chats with Carrie Wilkins, co-founder and partner of the Center for Motivation and Change. Carrie shares her journey from a small-town farm in Kansas to becoming a prominent psychologist in New York City. Her passion for helping individuals and families struggling with addiction is evident as she discusses the importance of combining science and kindness in treatment.
She delves into the principles behind her book, 'Beyond Addiction: How Science and Kindness Help People Change,' and explains the CRAFT approach to family support. Carrie emphasises the need for multiple pathways to recovery, recognising that each person's journey is unique. She also highlights the significance of understanding and empathy in supporting loved ones through their struggles.
The conversation touches on the ethical considerations of providing a range of treatment options and the importance of creating an environment conducive to change. Carrie’s insights are both informative and compassionate, making this episode a valuable listen for anyone interested in addiction recovery. Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion that blends professional expertise with heartfelt personal experiences.

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