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John, known as Kiwi John, shares a candid AA recovery story of childhood fear, rage, heavy drinking and repeated relapses, highlighting how meetings and kindness from other members keep bringing him back. The episode focuses on safety, vulnerability and the ongoing choice to seek sobriety.
17:41•2 Apr 2026
Kiwi John on Fear, Rage and Finding Safety in Sobriety
Episode Overview
- Alcoholism can be rooted in long-held fear, violence at home and a lifelong habit of shutting down feelings.
- AA offered John a safe place to admit vulnerability and to share anger, bitterness and fear without judgement.
- Building a desire to attend meetings and connect with others became a key part of staying sober.
- Relapse and shame are common, but returning to AA and asking for help is far less dangerous than staying out drinking.
- Simple acts of kindness from other AA members, like inviting someone back, can change the course of a life.
“"Pitiful and incomprehensible demoralisation."”
What drives someone to seek a life without alcohol? John, known as Kiwi John, lays it all out with raw honesty as he talks about a lifetime of fear, rage, and repeated attempts to get sober through Alcoholics Anonymous. Hosted by Dennis from Sober Talk SA, this episode focuses squarely on John’s voice. He talks about growing up in a strict migrant family, violence at home, and the constant sense of being unsafe.
As he puts it, the book captures his drinking days better than he ever could: "pitiful and incomprehensible demoralisation." That phrase becomes a thread through his story. You’ll hear how early fantasy and bravado – wanting to be the Lone Ranger or Elliot Ness, hanging around tough, violent friends – masked deep fear and loneliness. John explains how he learned to shut down his feelings, saying things like, "Mum, you shouldn't be crying.
Get over it," because he’d taught himself that bad feelings had no place. Alcohol eventually took everything: home, family, work, and any sense of self-worth. Yet AA offered something he never expected – a place where it’s safe to say, "I don't know what I'm doing.
I just want to be sober and break down." He describes arriving in hospital in 1978, packed with hatred and rage, then slowly developing "a desire to go to meetings" and finding comfort in the bond between members.
John is open about relapses and the shame that comes with them, including the moment an AA friend spotted him in a supermarket and simply said, "John, please come back to Alcoholics Anonymous." That quiet act of kindness is exactly what he says he now wants to pass on.
If you’ve ever felt too angry, too broken or too ashamed to ask for help, John’s story might make you wonder: what could happen if you walked into a meeting and just told the truth?

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