Spiritual Science, Recovery, And Real Change

Spiritual Science, Recovery, And Real Change

Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? This chat on *Recovery Recharged* brings together Ellen Stewart, the Pushy Broad from the Bronx, and licensed spiritual practitioner Catherine Richer for a lively, practical look at how "spiritual science" can support recovery.

Catherine shares her own story of recreational drinking edging into alcohol abuse, and the moment in the shower when she said out loud, "If this is not meant for me, please take it from me." Shortly after, she woke up from her last hangover and declared, "That's it. I am done. I release this. I give it up"—and, to her surprise, stopping felt effortless. Instead of dodging the tricky "God word", the conversation breaks spirituality down into everyday experiences.

Catherine asks, "What’s the first three words that people say? ‘Oh my God, thank God.’" She talks about an inner anchor that "no one can ever, ever, ever take away" and reframes alcohol as a substitute for true substance: "My substance is not in this glass of wine. My substance is my substance and that which I came from." You’ll hear how meditation, breathwork and simple daily practices can calm the nervous system, soften cravings, and shift fear into freedom.

Ellen connects Catherine’s ideas to familiar recovery concepts like "letting go, letting God" and being "high on life" instead of mood-altering substances, while Catherine explains her WOW idea—"wealth of wisdom"—as the unique mix of intuition, feelings, dreams and talents each person already carries. Practical tips, including humming for regulation and flipping negative thoughts like "a pancake that starts to burn on the stove", make the conversation feel accessible rather than abstract.

If you’ve ever felt torn between science and spirituality in recovery, this episode offers a fresh way to look at both and might leave you asking: what inner wealth have you been ignoring?