Step 5: Admit it! Self manipulation and dishonesty exposed!Step 5: Admit it! Self manipulation and dishonesty exposed!
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Zach Rogers and Monty talk through Step 5 of the 12 steps, sharing candid stories of addiction, self-deception and faith in Jesus. Their conversation highlights brutal honesty with God, self and another person as a key part of real recovery and spiritual freedom.
23:48•10 Oct 2026
Step 5 and Getting Brutally Honest: Zach Rogers Calls Out Self-Deception
Episode Overview
- Admitting the exact nature of wrongs to God, self and another person is essential for Step 5 and genuine recovery.
- Self-deception often starts small, with justifications like “one beer” or “needed medication”, and grows into full-blown addiction and lies.
- Being brutally honest may mean exposing financial, relational and moral messes, instead of hiding behind money, work or religious masks.
- A sincere prayer for God to do “whatever it takes” can lead to loss of possessions but also to real repentance and freedom.
- Sharing everything with a trusted sponsor or person, including the secrets you vowed never to tell, is vital for long-term change.
“In order to get free, we've got to be willing enough to expose it.”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This raw conversation from the Sheep Guys looks straight at that question through Step 5 of the 12 steps and a very Christian lens. Host Zach Rogers and co-host Monty talk as two men who’ve been there, messed it up, and then had to clean it up with God’s help.
The focus is Step 5: **“We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.”** That sounds simple, but Zach shows how hard it really is by walking through his history of drink, pills, gambling and cocaine, all held together by one thread: self-deception.
You’ll hear how he convinced himself that a huge Grolsch was “one beer”, used a broken back as a reason to keep chasing pain pills, drove to Mexico for narcotics while insisting he was just “seeing a doctor”, and even pretended to go play basketball while gambling and drinking. His line, **“In order to get free, we’ve got to be willing enough to expose it,”** sums up the whole episode. The spiritual side is front and centre.
Zach describes praying, “God, whatever it takes,” and then watching his money, status and possessions disappear until it was just him and God. There’s humour around sheep, lions and mini kegs, but the message hits hard: hiding behind lies, wealth or religious masks blocks real recovery. For anyone dealing with addiction, or with patterns like lust, money obsession, or compulsive behaviour, this chat pushes you to ask: where am I still lying to myself?
With talk of “eye gates” and “ear gates”, they challenge you to look at what you’re feeding your soul and who you’re honest with. If you’re ready to get real with God, yourself and another person, this one might be the nudge you’ve been avoiding—what would brutal honesty change for you?
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