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Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Joe C. joins Allen and Patrick to introduce what will be a series of episodes discussing how emotional sobriety can improve our sexual relationships, building genuine intimacy with partners. Finding ways to connect authentically, standing for ourselves without erasing our partners, and showing up for our partners without erasing ourselves. Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book: https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700 Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice: https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast https://pod.link/1826305552 Follow us on social media. Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod Instagram: thomrutledge2 Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST Zoom Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905 Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): https://zoom.us/j/330149513 Password: 375986 For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519 We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings. We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
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Emotional Sobriety: Love, Sex, and Recovery
Episode Overview
- Emotional sobriety enhances genuine intimacy in relationships.
- Differentiation is key to healthy sexual experiences.
- Challenge traditional recovery rules around sexuality.
- Open discussions about sex are crucial for holistic recovery.
- Societal norms can impact our views on sex.
“"The door to the bedroom opens off the living room."”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This episode of 'Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery' tackles a topic that's often left in the shadows—sex and emotional sobriety. Hosts Allen Berger and Thom Rutledge, along with guest Joe C., explore how emotional sobriety can enhance sexual relationships and build genuine intimacy. With a sprinkle of humour and honest anecdotes, the conversation touches on the struggles of balancing emotional maturity with sexual desires. Joe C.
shares insights into the importance of differentiation, a concept that links emotional independence with healthy sexual experiences. They discuss how societal norms and past experiences can shape our views on sex, often leading to performance anxiety or unrealistic expectations. It's a refreshing take on a subject that's rarely addressed in recovery circles, offering listeners a chance to rethink their approach to intimacy.
The hosts challenge the traditional 'rules' of recovery, advocating for a more holistic view that includes open discussions about sexuality. So, what does it mean to bring emotional sobriety into the bedroom? And how can you truly connect with your partner without losing yourself? Dive into this episode for a candid chat that might just change the way you think about love and recovery. Why not start a conversation about emotional sobriety in your own life?

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