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Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Clinical trauma specialist and author of Trauma and the 12 Steps Jamie+ Marich, Ph.D., LPCC-S, REAT joins Allen and Thom this week to talk about her body of work, field of study and pursuit of emotional sobriety. We pay special attention to the trauma surrounding loss, since all trauma work involves grief work. Learn more about Dr. Marich: www.redefinetherapy.com www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com www.jamiemarich.com Virtual book tours: www.redefinetherapy.com Instagram: drjamiem TikTok: traumatherapistrants Now available for pre-order: Queering EMDR Therapy (September 2025) Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice: https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast https://pod.link/1826305552 Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com Joe’s “Beyond Belief” book: https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700 Follow us on social media. Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod Instagram: thomrutledge2 Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST Zoom Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905 Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): https://zoom.us/j/330149513 Password: 375986 For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519 We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings. We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
47:32•5 Sept 2025
Emotional Sobriety: Balancing Trauma and Recovery
Episode Overview
- Emotional sobriety involves balancing emotions without suppressing them.
- Trauma is a subjective experience, unique to each individual.
- Grief work is an essential component of trauma recovery.
- Acceptance plays a crucial role in overcoming trauma.
- Healing requires adapting and using available resources.
“Trauma is subjective; it's any unhealed human wound.”
What makes trauma such a personal experience? Dive into this episode where Dr. Jamie Marich joins hosts Allen Berger and Thom Rutledge to unravel the complexities of emotional sobriety. Jamie shares her journey through recovery, touching on how trauma and loss are deeply intertwined, and why grief work is essential in healing. You'll find her metaphor of tending emotions like a fire in a hearth particularly illuminating—it's all about balance.
This episode isn't just about theory; it's packed with real-life stories that will resonate with anyone who's ever felt overwhelmed by their emotions. From tales of jet lag to poignant reflections on the nature of trauma, Jamie brings a refreshing honesty to the table. As she discusses the subjective nature of trauma, listeners are reminded that healing is unique to each individual.
If you've ever wondered how to make peace with your past, this conversation might just spark the insights you need. Remember, emotional sobriety is not about extinguishing your emotions but learning how to manage them without letting them burn out of control. Why not ponder what emotional sobriety means to you and how it can transform your journey?
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