Trying other ways to stay soberTrying other ways to stay sober
LOL Sober
Nelson H. talks about trying to stay sober without 12-step meetings, including using speaker tapes and other methods, and shares why they fell short for him. He highlights the importance of connection and explains the difference he sees between being dry and genuinely sober.
3:44•20 Oct 2026
Trying Other Ways to Stay Sober: Why Connection Matters More Than Cheat Codes
Episode Overview
- 12-step programmes are presented as a reliable way for the host to get and stay sober, even when they feel tempted to stop going.
- Alternative methods like relying mainly on speaker tapes may feel effective at first but can lack the crucial element of real human connection.
- The host notes that some people who leave meetings may stay off alcohol but can end up “more dry than sober.”
- Periods of being dry without deeper recovery work are described as emotionally difficult and “ugly.”
- Different paths to sobriety are acknowledged, but the host stresses that regular connection through a programme works best for him.
“Speaker tapes don’t do the main thing that I need in sobriety, which is connection.”
What drives someone to seek a life without alcohol? In this episode of LOL Sober, Nelson H. pulls back the curtain on his own experiments with “trying other ways to stay sober” and why, for him, 12-step programmes remain the backbone of his recovery.
Speaking in his usual straight-talking, slightly cheeky style, Nelson explains the temptation many people feel: “you get sober, you learn a bunch of tools to stay sober, and then you bounce.” He admits he’s tried it himself, stepping away from meetings to see if he could manage sobriety on his own terms. Spoiler: it didn’t go great. The heart of the episode sits around one key idea: connection.
Nelson shares how, during the pandemic, he leaned hard on speaker tapes from sober speakers online. For a brief moment, it felt like a “cheat code” – skipping meetings while still getting his daily shot of recovery talk.
But as he puts it, “that wore out pretty quick” because those recordings “don’t do the main thing that I need in sobriety, which is connection.” He also talks about people he’s known who’ve stepped away from 12-step programmes, stayed off alcohol, but ended up what he calls “more dry than sober,” behaving “the same way a junkie would, just without the drugs and alcohol.” He’s clear he doesn’t judge anyone for choosing different paths, saying, “Go for it.
I hope it works.” Yet he’s equally clear that structured, connected recovery is “definitely better for this alcoholic.” This episode suits anyone curious about whether meetings are really necessary, those flirting with leaving a programme, or anyone who’s ever thought, “Do I actually need this stuff any more?” It might just make you ask yourself: are you sober, or just dry?

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