Why Does My Life Feel Chaotic? God’s Way Out | Dinah DyeWhy Does My Life Feel Chaotic? God’s Way Out | Dinah Dye
The Call with Nancy Sabato
Nancy Sabato talks with Dinah Dye about Exodus as a repeating pattern of God bringing order out of chaos and drawing people back into his presence. The conversation links ancient imagery, Jesus’ life and personal struggle to show how feelings of chaos may fit into a much bigger rescue story.
21:20•20 Apr 2026
From Chaos to Order: Dinah Dye on Exodus, Jesus and Finding God in the Mess
Episode Overview
- Exodus is presented as a repeating pattern in scripture, echoing the creation story and pointing toward Jesus.
- Chaos is described through images like sea, wilderness, exile, armies, floods and barrenness, all linked with separation from God.
- Jesus’ life, death and resurrection are framed as the final Exodus, uniting heaven and earth and defeating the ultimate chaos of death.
- The Bible is described as one seamless rescue story in which God brings people out of exile and into his presence.
- Dinah encourages people to see their own chaos as part of God’s ongoing work to transform them into his image.
“The whole goal is to be in the presence of God, and that's really the whole story.”
What drives someone to seek a way out of chaos? This conversation between host Nancy Sabato and Bible teacher Dinah Dye looks at that question through a very unexpected lens: the book of Exodus. Rather than treating Exodus as a distant Old Testament story, Dinah argues that it’s "really the grand story of the bible and that it keeps repeating itself".
She links creation, Exodus, Esther, exile, Jesus’ life, and even Revelation into one continuous pattern: God bringing order out of chaos and drawing people back into his presence. You’ll hear how ancient people saw the sea, wilderness, exile, invading armies and even barrenness as symbols of chaos – things that separate people from God. Dinah then connects this to modern feelings of being lost, overwhelmed or spiritually displaced.
If life feels like you’re stuck in a desert with nothing solid under your feet, her explanation of chaos and order might hit close to home. She also explains how Jesus steps into this pattern as the final “Exodus”: his immersion in the Jordan, his suffering and his crucifixion as king on the cross all fit a repeated biblical script of God rescuing, restoring and reuniting heaven and earth.
As she puts it, "the whole goal is to be in the presence of God, and that's really the whole story." For anyone wrestling with faith, suffering or a sense that God feels distant, this conversation offers a bigger frame: what if your chaos is part of a much older rescue story? And if that’s true, what might it mean to let God bring you out of exile and back into his presence today?
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