152: The Good Listening To Show with Chris Grimes - Episode 152152: The Good Listening To Show with Chris Grimes - Episode 152
UK Health Radio Podcast
Matt Ziegler joins Chris Grimes to discuss storytelling, the complexities of relationships, and finding joy in presence. A delightful exploration of life's quirks.
29:29•10 Jan 2026
The Art of Storytelling with Matt Ziegler
Episode Overview
- Explore the unpredictability of relationships through the 'three-body problem'.
- Identify personal 'squirrels' or distractions that influence your journey.
- Embrace presence to find joy and fulfilment in daily interactions.
- Reflect on how personal interests can serve as inspiration.
- Consider the impact of legacy and storytelling on personal growth.
“"How am I complicit in creating the things I say I don't want?"”
How do individuals find strength in their journey to sobriety? The Good Listening To Show with Chris Grimes is a storytelling extravaganza that takes listeners on a journey through personal tales of creativity and self-discovery. Episode 152 features Matt Ziegler, a creative mind with a penchant for storytelling metaphors and the complexities of human connections. With a nod to the 'three-body problem' from physics, Ziegler explores the unpredictable nature of relationships and how they shape our lives.
Through engaging anecdotes, including his obsession with Premier League football and his love for new music, Ziegler reveals how personal interests can serve as both distractions and inspirations. Listeners are treated to the concept of 'squirrels'—those distractions that capture our attention—and how they can lead to unexpected connections and insights. Ziegler's reflections on being present in the moment offer a refreshing perspective on finding joy and fulfilment in everyday interactions.
This episode is a delightful mix of humour, introspection, and thought-provoking dialogue that will leave you pondering your own 'squirrels' and the stories you carry. Whether you're interested in the intricacies of storytelling or simply enjoy a good chat about life's quirks, this episode promises to entertain and inspire. So, grab a cuppa, sit back, and enjoy this engaging conversation that reminds us all of the beauty in our unique journeys.

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