3: The Smartest Doctor in the Room with Dean Mitchell, MD and Prof. Hart

3: The Smartest Doctor in the Room with Dean Mitchell, MD and Prof. Hart

UK Health Radio Podcast

Dr Dean Mitchell talks with Professor Pru Hart about narrowband UVB light as a treatment for autoimmune and inflammatory conditions, including early multiple sclerosis. They discuss immune mechanisms, the limits of vitamin D supplements and how safe sun and light therapy might offer broader health benefits than many people realise.

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46:4523 Jun 2026

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Sunlight as Medicine: Professor Pru Hart on UV Light, Autoimmunity and MS

Episode Overview

  • Narrowband UVB light can influence immune activity beyond the skin, with systemic effects that may help autoimmune and inflammatory diseases.
  • A small trial in people with early multiple sclerosis showed fewer relapses and reduced inflammatory blood markers after two months of whole-body UVB therapy.
  • Vitamin D appears to act mainly as a marker of sun exposure, with supplementation showing limited impact on immune-related outcomes in large trials.
  • Home UVB units may offer a lower-cost, more natural-feeling alternative or complement to biologic drugs for conditions such as psoriasis.
  • Sensible sun exposure, avoiding sunburn, may provide significant internal health benefits that outweigh the manageable risks of common skin cancers.
The benefits, the internal benefits on autoimmune diseases, cardiovascular diseases, cancer development or cancer progression, metabolic diseases, all those benefits far outweigh skin cancers.

In this eye-opening episode, you'll learn about a different kind of "medicine" that doesn’t come in a pill bottle: carefully controlled UV light. Dr Dean Mitchell chats with Professor Pru Hart, a photoimmunology specialist from Australia’s Kids Research Institute, about narrowband UVB therapy and its surprising effects on autoimmune and inflammatory diseases such as psoriasis and early multiple sclerosis. You’ll hear how dermatologists have used UVB for years on skin conditions and then realised the benefits weren’t just skin deep.

As Hart explains, the skin acts like “a conductor of the orchestra… for whole body homeostasis”, sending signals through the immune and neuroendocrine systems that can influence inflammation throughout the body. The conversation covers Hart’s small but promising trial using whole-body narrowband UVB in people with clinically isolated syndrome, an early precursor of MS. Over 12 months, fewer people in the UVB group progressed to full MS, and blood tests showed reduced inflammatory markers months after treatment.

While the numbers are too small for firm conclusions, the immune changes have sparked plans for larger trials. They also tackle the vitamin D hype. Hart calls it mostly “a biomarker of being in the sun”, suggesting supplementation is useful for deficiency but unlikely to be the magic immune fix many hoped for. Instead, she argues that multiple molecules and pathways triggered by sunlight may be doing the heavy lifting.

For anyone dealing with chronic illness, low mood or just a very indoor lifestyle, the discussion around safe sun exposure, home UVB units and the mental lift people report from light therapy might prompt some reflection. Hart sums up the trade-off bluntly: the internal health benefits of sensible sun and UVB “far outweigh” the manageable risk of treatable skin cancers. It leaves a simple question hanging: are you getting the right kind of light in your life?

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