Demystifying the Process of Change with Rebecca WatsonDemystifying the Process of Change with Rebecca Watson
Katherine Arati Maas
Catherine Moss and Rebecca Watson talk about how tiny habits, like flossing, paved the way for Rebecca to quit drinking and reshape her life. Their conversation touches on triggers, depression, relationships, money, and the importance of self-compassion in recovery.
0:00•16 Aug 2016
Flossing, Freedom and Letting Go: Rebecca Watson on Making Change Feel Possible
Episode Overview
- Small, consistent habits like flossing can build the confidence needed for larger life changes, including quitting drinking.
- Quitting alcohol outright may feel easier than long-term moderation for some people, especially those with an "extreme nature."
- Planning around triggers, such as preparing slow-cooker meals before the evening, can make early sobriety more manageable.
- Framing sobriety as a personal issue ("I don't process alcohol well") can reduce defensiveness in friends and family.
- Practising self-compassion and accepting emotional peaks and valleys helps reduce self-criticism and supports lasting change.
“Relax, nothing is under control.”
How do people cope with the challenges of staying sober? This conversation between host Catherine Moss and writer Rebecca Watson offers a down-to-earth look at how change actually happens, especially around alcohol. Rebecca, a recovering alcoholic, talks about her “extreme nature” and why quitting drinking outright felt easier than endlessly trying to moderate.
She explains how small habits, like her now-famous decision to start flossing, slowly built the confidence she needed for bigger shifts such as giving up alcohol, changing her diet, tackling money issues, and building healthier routines. As she puts it, even tiny wins make those “giant changes” feel less impossible. The episode digs into why change feels so hard: the comfort of the status quo, fear of failure, and the illusion of control.
Rebecca laughs about a line she loves: “Relax, nothing is under control,” and admits she’s still learning to trust rather than grip tightly to life. You’ll hear her describe how early sobriety made everyday moments tricky—like cooking dinner without a glass of wine in hand—and the practical tweaks she used, such as slow-cooker meals to avoid the 5 p.m.
“witching hour.” They also tackle tougher topics: depression, losing friends who struggle with your sobriety, and the sting of being told “you don’t have a problem” when you know you do. Rebecca suggests framing sobriety as a personal choice—“I don’t process alcohol well”—to avoid putting others on the defensive. Running through it all is a strong thread of self-compassion.
Both women stress being okay with not being okay, treating yourself kindly, and allowing peaks and valleys rather than expecting constant perfection. If you’ve ever wondered whether small changes can genuinely shift your life, this conversation might get you asking: what’s one tiny step you could start with today?

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