Listening

Listening

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Wendell reflects on God’s no-strings-attached love and shares stories that show how deep, attentive listening can become a healing gift. The gathering gently challenges people in recovery and beyond to ask more questions, speak less and truly hear the hearts of those around them.

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27:01•13 Nov 2026

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Listening Like Love: Hearing Hearts in Recovery and Faith

Episode Overview

  • God’s love is presented as completely unconditional, with no "I love you, but" attached to performance or behaviour.
  • True listening is described as hearing a person’s feelings, hopes and inner world, not just the surface details of their story.
  • Planning a response while someone is talking is framed as a barrier to real listening, even when the intention is to help.
  • Simple, curious questions can gently move a conversation from small talk toward deeper sharing and connection.
  • Group settings like Pathway can teach people how to listen patiently and respectfully while others share painful experiences.
“There is nothing we can do, not do, improve upon anything to make him love us more or less.”

How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This Pathway gathering focuses on something deceptively simple that many in recovery struggle with: really being heard and really believing they are loved without conditions.

Wendell, who openly names his own battles with pornography, alcohol, rage, panic and depression, reflects on how easily people add a silent clause to faith: "God loves me, but…" He challenges that idea head-on by comparing God’s love to the way we adore babies and frail elders who "can’t do squat" except exist – yet are cherished anyway. That image lands especially strongly for anyone who’s been taught their value depends on performance, productivity, or staying perfectly sober.

From there, the focus shifts to listening as an act of love. Wendell shares warm and funny stories about his granddaughter Claire and her "whole world" of imagination, showing how deeply he has to lean in to understand her. He contrasts this with how little effort people often put into hearing spouses, friends, or housemates after a long day – a quick "Fine, good" and that’s it.

He suggests that genuine listening means dropping the urge to jump in with advice, a better story, or a clever response. Instead, it’s about asking gentle questions, using "all your spidey senses" – noticing tone, body language and emotion – and letting someone know their inner world matters. This is exactly the kind of listening practised in Pathway small groups, where people share hurts from addiction, toxic relationships, loss and pain.

If you’ve ever felt unseen, or worried you’re talking more than you’re truly hearing others, this gathering offers a down-to-earth challenge: what might change in recovery, family and faith if you listened to people the way you’d listen to a child, a dying parent, or someone speaking their second language?

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