S4 E32 Part 2 Into Action with Not FredS4 E32 Part 2 Into Action with Not Fred
That's NOT in the book!
Agent X and Not Fred discuss self-reliance, spiritual growth, and making amends, emphasising the importance of continuous learning and service in sobriety.
1:00:29•15 Dec 2024
Spiritual Growth and Sobriety: The Journey Continues
Episode Overview
- Self-reliance often leads to personal struggles.
- Spiritual growth is essential for long-term sobriety.
- Information is crucial for spiritual development in AA.
- Making amends can be challenging but is necessary.
- Continuous learning and service to others are key aspects of recovery.
“I thought the word psychic change meant that I could be psychic.”
Agent X and Not Fred are back with Part 2 of their enlightening discussion on spirituality, AA, and the Big Book. This episode dives deep into the concept of self-reliance and how it often leads to personal struggles. Agent X shares a vivid metaphor about trying to control every aspect of life, likening it to a chaotic stage production where everything goes wrong. The pair explore the importance of spiritual growth and the role information plays in achieving it.
They discuss how many people in AA might stay sober for years without fully grasping the necessary information for spiritual development. Not Fred adds his experiences with making amends and the challenges that come with it, including a humorous yet poignant story about a failed attempt to make amends that ended up scaring someone from his past. Throughout the episode, both hosts emphasise the importance of continuous spiritual growth and learning from others who have long-term sobriety.
They highlight that sobriety is not just about abstaining from alcohol but also about growing spiritually and being of service to others. With plenty of humour and honesty, this episode is a must-listen for anyone on the journey of recovery.

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