Season 4 #4 Mark Rice-OxleySeason 4 #4 Mark Rice-Oxley
How To Be Sad with Helen Russell
From the outside, life looked great for Mark Rice-Oxley - an editor on a national newspaper – The Guardian - with a happy marriage and three children. But in 2009, he suffered a major episode of depression that took him away from his work, leaving hi...
48:58•9 Feb 2022
Mark Rice-Oxley: Navigating Life's Ups and Downs with Helen Russell
“You know, we live long lives and we need to pace ourselves and understand that that not everything has to be right here right now.”
Life seemed picture-perfect for Mark Rice-Oxley, an editor at The Guardian, with a happy marriage and three children. But in 2009, his world turned upside down when he experienced a severe bout of depression that pulled him away from his work and left him relying on medication and professional help for months.
In this episode of 'How To Be Sad with Helen Russell', Mark opens up about his journey through the labyrinth of mental illness and recovery, sharing insights from his memoir, 'Underneath the Lemon Tree: A Memoir of Depression and Recovery'. Mark's story is a candid exploration of the unpredictable nature of life. He describes it not as a straightforward path but as a 'messy scatter graph' filled with both joyful and painful moments.
Throughout the conversation, he tackles common misconceptions about mental illness, emphasizing the importance of psychological flexibility and the value of being 'good enough'. The discussion also delves into the triggers of burnout and the fine line between prevention and cure. Mark highlights the significance of hobbies and simple joys, like singing, in maintaining mental well-being. His reflections on masculinity and work-life balance are particularly poignant in light of the pandemic, which has brought these issues into sharper focus.
Helen Russell's empathetic interviewing style brings out the depth of Mark's experiences, making this episode a must-listen for anyone grappling with similar challenges. Mark's message is clear: life is complex, and it's okay to seek help and take things one step at a time. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of depression and find solace in knowing you're not alone.

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