SoberNotMature - Episode 218 (Lane K. - Unraveling Our Helixes)

SoberNotMature - Episode 218 (Lane K. - Unraveling Our Helixes)

How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? Sober Not Mature takes that question and runs with it, lacing long-term recovery talk with swear-heavy banter and a lot of laughter. This time, the guys sit down with guest Lane Kennedy, a Calm Living Docent, dna wellness specialist and co-author of *Sobriety for Dummies*, who’s been sober since 1996 and jokes she’s “lived three lives” in the process.

You’ll hear Lane share how she got sober in Hollywood during the 90s—rock‑and‑roll meetings, fashion, celebrities and all—without getting lost in drunk‑a‑logs. Instead, the chat focuses on what keeps her sober nearly three decades later: community, principles and a willingness to show up, even when life gets messy.

She talks about moving to Bangkok after 9/11 and somehow ending up living right next to another meeting space, calling it one of many times “the universe has been so generous and so open” to her. The conversation leans straight into the tension between traditional AA and newer alcohol‑free movements.

Lane is clear she’s not a fan of ditching the word “alcoholic”, yet she also stresses, “I would rather have somebody have an option than die,” whether that’s AA, mindfulness, or even medical approaches like psychedelics. Mike weighs in as an atheist who still uses the 12 steps, proving you don’t need a traditional God to work a spiritual programme.

There’s plenty of honesty about romance disasters in sobriety, making amends for stuff done stone‑cold sober, and the reality that compulsions can resurface as food, sex or gambling if they’re not addressed.

All of it is wrapped in the show’s trademark raw humour, complete with production chaos, shoulder pain complaints and their proud admission: “We just talk… about whatever shit we want to.” If you like your recovery chat real, sweary and a bit chaotic, this one might be exactly what you need today.