SoberNotMature - Episode 219 (Two Old Men Discussing Their Ailments)SoberNotMature - Episode 219 (Two Old Men Discussing Their Ailments)
Sober Not Mature
Two long‑sober friends swap stories about ageing bodies, control issues and Cleveland adventures while reflecting on pain meds, medicinal marijuana and what it really means to trust the recovery process. Their humour stays crude, but their message about staying honest and connected in sobriety remains clear.
1:40:58•2 May 2026
Two Old Men, Bad Shoulders and Real Sobriety Chats
Episode Overview
- Control in addiction is described as an illusion, and peace comes from trusting the process rather than forcing outcomes.
- Long-term sobriety is framed as a daily practice, with milestones like Wendy’s 35 years built one day at a time.
- Sitting alone with serious problems can be risky; sharing with others often halves the burden.
- Prescription pain medication and medical procedures are highlighted as common relapse traps, especially when recovery work has slipped.
- Questions around medicinal marijuana and other medical interventions show that even with time, boundaries around substances need regular, honest review.
“The process is going to take care of us if we stay in the process.”
Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? Sober Not Mature’s latest outing is exactly what the title promises: “Two Old Men Discussing Their Ailments” – with plenty of recovery wisdom tucked between the jokes about bad shoulders, chick vitamins and rectal exams.
Mike and Bill kick off with a daily reading about control from *Touchstones*, circling around the idea that “the process is going to take care of us if we stay in the process.” They talk honestly about being lifelong control freaks, how easy it is to romanticise the old chaos, and why surrender and “doing the next right thing” still matters even decades into sobriety.
You’ll hear them celebrate a follower, Wendy from Florida, hitting 35 years, using her story as a reminder that long-term recovery really is “one day at a time.” There’s a warm recap of their weekend in Cleveland: watching the documentary *Shuffle* at Playhouse Square, catching up with their sponsor and old AA friends at Stella Maris, and laughing about how different downtown feels compared to the grim version they remember from their drinking days.
The chat stays loose and very human: vitamins (including “chick vitamins”), pain, sleep, and the ever‑touchy topic of prescription meds and painkillers. They share cautionary examples of people relapsing on prescribed opiates, and even touch on Anthony Kiedis’ story of slipping after a dental procedure. Medicinal marijuana comes up too, with both of them honestly questioning what they’d do if a doctor suggested it.
Things wrap up with a bizarre medical article about a “finger in the ass” rectal exam that seemed to reset a man’s heart rhythm, because of course they do. Crude? Yes. But under the laughter sits a clear message: sobriety is about more than not drinking; it’s about how you handle life’s aches, scares and absurdities without reaching for a chemical escape. If you like your recovery chat real, unfiltered and a bit sweary, this one’s hard to skip.
How sober do you really want to be, and what are you still trying to control?
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