SoberNotMature - Episode 221 (Hanging Around A Heaven Cart)

SoberNotMature - Episode 221 (Hanging Around A Heaven Cart)

Get ready to be moved by real-life accounts of recovery, sarcasm, and sore backs on Sober Not Mature’s “Hanging Around A Heaven Cart”. Mike and Bill are back with their trademark unfiltered banter, mixing foul-mouthed humour with solid 12‑step wisdom. Things kick off with a new “crime blotter” bit centred on Eric Clapton getting smacked in the chest by a flying vinyl record.

That spirals into Mike’s long‑standing “blue hot hatred” of Clapton and a legendary story about nailing Jon Bon Jovi in the head with a penny. It’s ridiculous, crude, and very funny – and somehow still ties back to early sobriety memories and how their friendship began. From there, Mike reads a Touchstones piece about being overly competitive and treating life like a constant win/lose game.

The pair talk about how they used to live that way, always trying to control everything and everyone, and how recovery taught them to “flow” instead. As Bill puts it, “the easier, softer way is to stop trying to control shit that we can’t control.” They’re honest that they still get angry, impatient, and sarcastic, but now see those as character defects they need to keep in check rather than badges of honour. Step 5 gets a special mention too.

Bill explains why sharing a fourth step with another person made him finally feel like he belonged: it was the first time he wasn’t doing this thing alone. That sense of connection – plus plenty of swearing and laughter – runs through the whole conversation. There’s also some old‑guy back‑pain moaning, a reminder of how quickly painkillers can drag people into addiction, and a sideways riff about Kevin Hart that turns into a lesson on contempt before investigation.

If you like your recovery talk raw, real, and occasionally obscene, this one’s worth your time – what parts of your own life are you still trying to “win” instead of just flowing with?