Saying What Matters 11 | Living by What You ValueSaying What Matters 11 | Living by What You Value
The Millennium Counseling Center Podcast
Rahsaan and Oren talk about leaving a fear-driven corporate life to live by clearly chosen values like peace, service and connection. They discuss how clarity about what truly matters can reshape work, relationships and recovery without abandoning everyday responsibilities.
47:07•21 Oct 2026
Living by What You Value: From Burnout to Peace and Connection
Episode Overview
- Clarifying your core values can expose the gap between the life you live and the life you actually want.
- A career built on fear of insecurity may lead to burnout and deep inner emptiness, even if it looks successful.
- Choosing peace, service and self-connection can be more rewarding than constant pursuit of money and status.
- Irritation and criticism of others can be used as mirrors to reveal personal work and growth opportunities.
- It is possible to keep a job and family life while consciously shifting time and energy towards what truly matters to you.
“I am very clear where I'm going. I have no idea how I'm going to get there. And I really don't care because I know exactly where I'm going.”
What can we learn from those who have battled addiction? This chat between Rahsaan Nurullah and therapist Oren Matteson gives a very honest look at what happens when you stop living by fear and start living by what you value. Rahsaan talks about walking away from a corporate life built on "a trauma response" to food and financial insecurity.
On paper he had everything – career ladder, travel, festivals, big friendship circles – yet he describes feeling "dead on the inside" with work frustration, empty social time, and no real joy. That breaking point pushed him towards a life centred on service, healing work, and spiritual connection instead of the "almighty dollar".
You’ll hear him reflect on becoming a "time billionaire" who no longer lives by alarms, and on choosing peace, nature, meditation, and deep inner work over constant productivity. Oren gently presses the practical questions many people have: how do you honour your values if you still need a job, a fixed home, and to provide for your family?
Together they explore the idea of having "one foot in both worlds" – conventional responsibilities on one side, and a more conscious, values-led life on the other. A big theme is clarity. Rahsaan explains how naming his values (joy, service, peace, connection) shifted how he spends his time.
Oren shares his own process of noticing irritation with others, turning it back on himself, and using it as fuel to grow so he can feel more intimacy and connection at home, at work, and with his kids. If you’ve ever climbed the ladder, ticked all the boxes, and still felt disconnected, this conversation might nudge you to ask a simple but brave question: are you living by what you truly value, or by what you’ve been told should matter?
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