The Effect of Emotional Dependency on Our CommunicationThe Effect of Emotional Dependency on Our Communication
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Thom’s Nutshell: Perfectionism and Procrastination are old friends – they go way back. What is emotional dependency? What does that look like, and how can it corrode our relationship with others? Allen goes back to Bill W’s letter on Emotional Sobriety for answers, defining it as real maturity, balance and humility in relationship to life itself. In the transition from environmental support to self support, we release expectations of validation from our fellows to be okay. In emotional dependency we find our own value in a “reflected sense of self.” This is a self-sabotaging framework we can learn to move away from. Part two later this week will discuss what emotional sobriety can do to build our capacity for communication. Our music is provided by the great southern artist Jefferson Ross. Learn more about Jefferson at jeffersonross.com Visit our website: www.emotionalsobriety.info Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com Follow us on social media: Instagram: thomrutledge2 Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): https://zoom.us/j/330149513 Password: 375986 For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519 We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings. We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
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Emotional Dependency, Self-Support and How We Talk to Each Other
Episode Overview
- Emotional sobriety is linked to real maturity, balance and humility in relation to self, others, God and life.
- Maturity involves shifting from environmental support to self-support rather than depending on others for emotional stability.
- Early praise-based parenting can foster a reflected sense of self where worth depends on others’ reactions.
- Emotional dependency turns communication into attempts to gain reassurance, avoid disapproval or control another’s response.
- Learning to comfort oneself instead of relying on others’ comfort is presented as a crucial step in emotional sobriety.
“We develop early on a reflected sense of self, meaning how I think about myself is based on how you are interacting with me and reflecting me back to me.”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This conversation between psychotherapists Dr. Allen Berger and Thom Rutledge zooms in on a crucial piece of the puzzle: emotional dependency, and how it quietly shapes the way you talk to others. Drawing on Bill Wilson’s 1952 letter about emotional sobriety, Allen explains that Wilson saw “real maturity and balance” as humility in relationship to ourselves, others, God, and life itself.
A child brings home an art project: one response teaches her to live for dad’s praise, the other helps her notice her own excitement and asks, “What did you like about it?” That contrast shows how many of us grow into adults with a “reflected sense of self”, where “my reflected sense of self… is completely dependent on how people think about me.” Patrick adds his own recovery experience, describing how he used to “throw myself over whatever object happened to be in my orbit” because he had “no self support”.
From there, Allen introduces Fritz Perls’ idea that true maturity is moving from “environmental support to self-support” – shifting from relying on other people to hold you up, to learning how to hold yourself. You’ll hear a powerful example through a simple parenting moment. Now, through emotional sobriety work, he’s learning to like the guy he’s with all the time – himself – and to build a reputation with himself that actually feels decent.
The episode lays out how emotional dependency turns communication into subtle manipulation: trying to secure reassurance, dodge disapproval, or restore your emotional balance by getting others to react just right. Allen contrasts this with learning to comfort yourself instead of assigning other people responsibility for your emotional stability.
If you’ve ever felt your mood rise or crash based on someone else’s opinion of you, this chat might be a gentle nudge to ask: where could you start building more self-support today?
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