The Long Game Playbook: Persistence, Patience, and Purpose in a Fast-Paced World with Dorie Clark

The Long Game Playbook: Persistence, Patience, and Purpose in a Fast-Paced World with Dorie Clark

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Eric Zimmer and Dorie Clark talk about choosing long-term goals over constant busyness, sharing real stories about saying no, handling failure, and sticking with big dreams. The conversation offers practical ways to create structure, protect your time, and keep going when progress feels slow.

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1:03:163 Apr 2026

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Playing the Long Game with Dorie Clark: Busting Busyness and Betting on Your Future

Episode Overview

  • Busyness often acts as both a status symbol and a way to numb difficult emotions, but it comes with serious costs.
  • Saying no to even good opportunities is essential so that your calendar reflects your real priorities, not just what is possible.
  • Big goals become manageable by focusing on just two things: the ultimate aim and the very next concrete step.
  • Creating structure, deadlines and external support (like coaches or programmes) helps you follow through on long-term projects.
  • apparent failures and rejections can later turn into successes if you keep acting over the long haul.
You really only need to know two things: the next step and the last step.

Curious how patience, purpose, and persistence actually play out in real life, beyond all the motivational slogans? This conversation between Eric Zimmer and strategy expert Dorie Clark pulls back the curtain on what playing the long game really looks like. Aimed at people who care about growth, meaning and mental wellbeing (including those in recovery from addiction or compulsive busyness), the chat digs into how short‑term thinking “nips at your heels” and steals time from the projects that actually matter.

Dorie talks about the cultural obsession with being “crazy busy” and how busyness becomes a status symbol and even an anaesthetic to avoid uncomfortable feelings like grief, loneliness, or dissatisfaction at work. You’ll hear Dorie and Eric swap stories about saying no to “good” opportunities, turning down free trips and extra income in favour of rest, relationships, and focused work.

Dorie’s rule of thumb of choosing “the more interesting option” and Eric’s commitment to long stretches of time off show how values-based choices can reshape a life. Dorie also shares her 10‑year goal of writing a Broadway musical, how she googled “how do you write a musical?”, got rejected from a training programme the first time, hired a coach, and tried again.

Her simple guideline of only needing to know the “next step” and the “last step” is especially helpful when big goals feel overwhelming. The episode doesn’t pretend that success removes failure. Dorie walks through a year where four out of five big career goals fell through, and how some of those apparent failures turned into later wins because she kept going.

If you’re trying to build a sober, steady life that isn’t driven by urgency and anxiety, this one offers plenty of practical ideas and honest encouragement – what long game might you be ready to commit to next?

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