Ep358 – Retreat Roundtable: Feeling Safe with Strangers in the WoodsEp358 – Retreat Roundtable: Feeling Safe with Strangers in the Woods
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Retreat participants sit down with Matt and Sheri Salis to talk about emotional safety, trust, and community as partners and loved ones of people with drinking problems. Through humour and honesty, they share how a no‑judgment group helps them speak freely, rebuild lives, and slowly rediscover ease and fun.
1:17:33•27 Jul 2026
Feeling Safe with Strangers: Retreat Stories of Trust, Trauma and Recovery
Episode Overview
- Safe, non‑judgmental spaces allow people to express messy, unfinished feelings without fear of criticism or pressure to act.
- Sharing lived experience instead of telling others what to do helps partners find their own path through addiction‑affected relationships.
- Many partners feel more able to speak freely with peers than with family or friends who minimise, judge, or oversimplify their situation.
- Rebuilding trust after alcoholism can remain challenging years into sobriety, especially for those with long histories of betrayal and trauma.
- Remembering how to have fun and feel ease is a gradual process when life has been dominated by alcohol, hyper‑vigilance, and crisis.
“You can say whatever you want here… it’s a safe space to just be who you are. Be authentic. Say what you say. Sometimes that’s some shit, and that’s okay.”
Get ready to be moved by real‑life accounts of emotional safety, trust, and recovery shared from a cabin in the Colorado Rockies. This roundtable from the Echoes of Recovery summer retreat brings together partners of drinkers and people in long‑term sobriety to talk honestly about what it means to feel safe with strangers in the woods.
You’ll hear Jen, Nikki, Mike, Tara, Jennifer and Avia explain why sitting with people who “get it” feels so different from talking to family or friends who say things like, “you just need to leave him.” Here, nobody is told what to do. Instead, people swap stories: what worked, what backfired, and how they’re slowly rebuilding lives singed by addiction and emotional abuse.
The conversation centres on emotional safety—being able to speak without rehearsing every word, without worrying you’ll be judged, criticised, or told you’re overreacting. One guest sums it up as the relief of a “no judgment zone” where you can test hard conversations before having them at home, and where perspective matters more than prescriptions. Trust and self‑worth come up again and again. Nikki talks about learning to “lead with kindness” instead of anger.
Others admit they still feel they must do everything alone, even with sober and supportive partners. There’s humour too—inside jokes, bear horns and “rape horn” mishaps—alongside serious reflections on how hard it is to remember what fun even looks like when life has revolved around alcohol and hyper‑vigilance.
At its heart, this episode is about community: chosen family, long‑term connections, and the courage to say, “I need help.” If you’ve ever felt isolated, unloved, or afraid to tell your story, these voices might be the nudge you need to reach out. What would it feel like if you had a circle like this around you?

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