Episode Thirty-Nine: Jefferson Ross and "Southern Currency"Episode Thirty-Nine: Jefferson Ross and "Southern Currency"
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Thom and Producer Patrick are joined by Jefferson Ross, artist/singer/songwriter to talk about emotional sobriety. Also includes some stories from the old days as Jefferson and Thom are old friends. We are grateful to have Jefferson's permission to use his music as intro and wrap up for our podcast. If listeners are not familiar with his music, we encourage you to check it out: jeffersonross.com For Valentines Day, Thom's gift book, “What Love Is” could really come in handy… https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1542697344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i10 Follow our new Twitter handle! @EmSobrietyPod Allen’s new book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ Thom's book, Embracing Fear: https://www.amazon.com/Embracing-Fear-Turn-Scares-Greatest/dp/0062517759/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below) https://zoom.us/j/330149513 Password: 375986 For our ongoing video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519 We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings. We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
52:38•7 Feb 2022
Jefferson Ross on Emotional Sobriety: Art, Humility, and Healing
“It's a real maturity, a condition in which the best of us is in charge of the rest of us.”
What happens when emotional sobriety meets the creative spirit? In this episode of 'Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery', psychotherapists Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger sit down with artist, singer, and songwriter Jefferson Ross to explore this intriguing intersection. With decades of friendship behind them, Thom and Jefferson share personal stories and insights that bring depth to the conversation.
Jefferson’s music, which features as the intro and wrap-up for the podcast, adds a personal touch to the episode, weaving his artistic journey with the themes discussed. The heart of the episode is emotional sobriety—a concept first introduced by Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous. Dr. Berger explains it as a state where the best parts of us guide our actions, transcending mere abstinence from substances. It's about embracing life's unpredictable nature with maturity and grace.
Jefferson shares his own experiences, emphasizing the importance of being present and not dwelling on past regrets or future anxieties. Art plays a significant role in this dialogue. Jefferson believes that creativity helps people feel less isolated and more understood. His journey as an artist has allowed him to connect deeply with others, offering a sense of belonging and empathy through his work. Thom also highlights how language and storytelling can provide meaning and purpose, enriching our emotional lives.
Humility and maturity are recurring themes throughout the episode. Jefferson recounts how he admired Thom’s humility early in their friendship and how it has influenced his own path. Admitting mistakes and embracing vulnerability are seen as strengths, essential for emotional growth. Dr. Berger adds that reflecting on past experiences can offer valuable insights into our behaviors and choices. Relationships, both old and new, are crucial in recovery.
The trio discusses the importance of maintaining connections through various means, including social media, and how these relationships can support one's journey to emotional sobriety. This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom for anyone on a recovery path or simply seeking a more emotionally balanced life. Tune in to hear how emotional sobriety, creativity, and humility can transform your approach to living.
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