God and Addiction: Interview with author, David SchoenGod and Addiction: Interview with author, David Schoen
Father Bill W.
Father Bill W. and David Schoen explore the spiritual and psychological aspects of addiction and the 12-Step pathway.
1:17:18•29 Sept 2021
God, Addiction, and the 12 Steps: A Conversation with David Schoen
“I think it was William James, in the varieties of religious experience, when he s talking about that all true religious experiences involve a collapse of the ego, whatever tradition you re in, and that once the ego gives up, and this is with everybody that it allows god or the spiritual to come in in a way to help call the shots.”
Ever wondered how spirituality intersects with addiction recovery? In this episode, Father Bill W. welcomes David Schoen, author of 'The War of the Gods in Addiction', for a deep dive into the spiritual and psychological dimensions of addiction. They unpack Carl Jung’s influential letter to AA co-founder Bill Wilson, revealing the often overlooked psychic elements present in addiction and how the 12-Step program is uniquely designed to address them.
With lively conversation and rich insights, they explore the lost practice of Two Way Prayer, the role of the ego, and the transformative power of shadow work. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the profound connections between spirituality and recovery.

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