How to Trust Life Even When It Breaks Your Heart | Rosemerry Wahtola TrommerHow to Trust Life Even When It Breaks Your Heart | Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer
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Poet Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer talks with Eric Zimmer about losing her son and father, and how grief, poetry, and a quiet "okay" shaped her way of trusting life again. The conversation reflects on pain, love, trust, and small daily practices that can support someone through devastating loss.
1:04:23•12 Jun 2026
Trusting Life After Unimaginable Loss with Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer
Episode Overview
- Healing may mean learning to be with pain rather than trying to make it disappear.
- A simple mantra like saying "okay" to each small action can steady you in acute grief.
- Daily reflective practices, such as writing a poem every day, can help prepare you for life's hardest moments.
- Trusting life does not mean believing bad things won’t happen, but believing you will be supported enough to show up for them.
- Asking "Is this the path of love?" repeatedly through the day can gently reshape choices and reactions, even around irritations.
“"Maybe that's what healing is, is to be able to meet it without wishing it away."”
She recalls the night after her son died, hearing the story in her head, "I am the woman whose son took his life," until another line arose: "I am the woman who learns how to love him now that he's gone." That shift, she says, "did not change the facts, but it changed everything about how I met the facts." You’ll hear how her long-term daily poetry practice since 2006 and a simple mantra of "okay" helped her keep moving through the smallest moments of the day: "I got to the car door.
What emotional and inspiring tales of recovery are out there? This conversation between poet Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer and host Eric Zimmer centres on how someone keeps saying "okay" to life after it shatters their heart. Rosemerry speaks openly about the death of her son and her father within months of each other, and how grief and love arrived together. Okay. I opened the car door.
Okay." She explains that "okay" isn't a big, cheerful yes, but it also "just isn't no," and in the very worst moments, that was enough. The episode also looks at trust: what it means to trust life after the very thing you feared most has happened.
Rosemerry says trust isn’t believing that terrible things won’t occur, but believing "that even when my greatest fears come true, I will be supported enough to be able to show up." She and Eric talk about resistance, the myth that healing means you "won't hurt anymore," and the courage it takes to let pain stay without trying to numb or outrun it.
Poems from her book *All the Honey* tie grief, joy, irritation, and everyday moments together, asking again and again: is this the path of love? If you're living with loss, depression, or old perfectionist habits, this gentle, honest conversation might leave you asking the same question of your own day. What would it look like for you to say a quiet "okay" to your own hardest moments?

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