Jacqueline Trumbull and Kibby McMahon

A Little Help For Our Friends

Jacqueline Trumbull and Kibby McMahon

  • When One Chases and the Other Runs: Understanding the Pursuer-Withdrawer Dynamics in Couples

When One Chases and the Other Runs: Understanding the Pursuer-Withdrawer Dynamics in Couples

Wednesday 4th June 2025

Explore pursuer-withdrawer dynamics in couples with Jacqueline & Kibby, offering insights through Emotion-Focused Therapy.
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The Dance of Pursuer-Withdrawer Dynamics in Relationships

Episode Overview

  • Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT) can help couples understand their dynamics.
  • Pursuer-withdrawer cycle often leads to recurring relationship conflicts.
  • Understanding attachment needs is crucial for emotional regulation.
  • Vulnerability and open communication are key to resolving conflicts.
  • Personal stories highlight the impact of these dynamics on relationships.
"It's not about being good at chores; it's about longing for love and dealing with attachment wounds."
In the episode titled 'When One Chases and the Other Runs: Understanding the Pursuer-Withdrawer Dynamics in Couples', Jacqueline Trumbull and Dr. Kibby McMahon dive into the intricate dance of relationship dynamics. With a sprinkle of humour and a dash of personal anecdotes, they tackle the pursuer-withdrawer cycle, where one partner seeks connection while the other retreats. This cycle often leads to recurring conflicts, leaving couples stuck in frustrating patterns.
Using Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT) as a lens, they explore how attachment needs and emotion regulation play a crucial role in these dynamics. Jacqueline and Kibby, both Duke University clinical psychology Ph.D. trainees, bring their academic insights into the conversation, offering listeners a blend of scientific knowledge and relatable experiences. They share stories from their own lives and discuss how these patterns manifest in relationships, offering a compassionate look at how partners can better understand and support each other.
The hosts don't shy away from sharing their own challenges and triumphs in relationships, making the episode feel like a chat with friends who just happen to know a lot about psychology. They emphasise the importance of vulnerability and communication, encouraging couples to dig deeper beneath surface-level conflicts to address underlying emotions and needs.
If you've ever felt like you're stuck in a loop with your partner, this episode offers practical insights and relatable stories that might just help you break free from those cycles. Whether you're a pursuer or a withdrawer, or somewhere in between, Jacqueline and Kibby provide a fresh perspective on how to navigate these dynamics with empathy and understanding.
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